http://glamrock.com/forum/ GlamRock.com Forum » Topic: Hair/Glam doesn't deserve the crap it gets en Sat, 26 May 2012 13:21:09 +0000 http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/3#post-16324 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:01:28 +0000 RockLibertyWarrior 16324@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>This is just my opinion and it maybe mean but I don't care. All musical tastes and opinions are subjective, I think rap sucks, most of the people I know who listen to it cop a attitude, try to be something their not and they live in my neighborhood. They should try living in Van Nuys like I did for four years and they would know what a real ghetto is. I don't mind if people like the music, its just the A hole territory that comes with it. I don't go up to Wiggers and tell them their stupid and their music is infant BS. Go ahead and listen but where I draw the lines is personal attacks and insults hurled not only at me but others who don't dress or listen to what they do. I see this alot with Wigs. I know some cool Wigs but only some, I tried to listen to rap, I really did but I just couldn't get into it. Not my cup of tea. I think it just plain sucks and I don't think it should be called music. Its just my opinion but they did a scientific study to see if it was true that plants grew faster when classical music was played. It turned out the plants grew slower when classical was played, then they played rap and the plants grew even slower! Guess what? They played Metal and the study concluded the plants grew at a faster rate when Metal was played. Nuff said. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/3#post-16171 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:01:28 +0000 sladealive 16171@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Hey, it's rock and roll. It's supposed to be fun. Anyone who takes themselves too seriously is fucked anyway. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/3#post-16069 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:07:30 +0000 BillyAcid 16069@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>I don't blame you guys, I can't stand it when the Hair metal scene gets bashed all the time and the thing that makes it worse is that they get bashed on their own shows like Heavy The Story Of Metal. I mean I start screaming at the TV when Kerry King from Slayer said that Glam stands for gay L.A Metal. I wanted to fucking kill that guy. I really hope that the people who bash Glam die a very very slow and painful death. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/3#post-15435 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:40:19 +0000 GlamRose 15435@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Exactly... I agree with what you were all saying.<br /> I've always agreed with the expression, "It takes a real man to wear pink, tight pants, makeup, etc." We live in this society with cookie cut gender roles. We've only recently started to bend those gender roles. This whole "guys who wear makeup are gay" thing, really pisses me off!</p> <p>Whenever I wear my Cinderella shirt, I usually get some morons that go up to me and say, "Are the guys on your shirt fags?! They look just like chicks! That must be why they're called Cinderella! They should be sued for copyright infringement!" And isn't that just the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?!</p> <p>People these days just don't seem to understand glam. It does NOT necessarily mean a guy is gay if he chooses to dress fashionably, do his hair nicely, and wear makeup. I mean, WHY SHOULDN'T guys do that? Us girls spend hours making ourselves up. It's not fair that some guys don't care at ALL about their appearance, yet they expect to get these really hot doller up chicks? YEAH RIGHT... that's why I prefer glam guys. My boyfriend gets highlights in his hair, has a REALLY great sense of style, and he wears almost as much makeup as me. (But not quite...hehe.) It's nice to have a guy that actually cares about his appearance instead of these cocky slobs that just wake up and go out looking like hobos. Also, what girl wouldn't want a guy that she could do her makeup and go shopping with?! It doesn't automatically make him gay...</p> <p>Personally, I think all these "macho" dudes out there... the football players and whatnot, are secretly really insecure. Notice how they get SO offended when someone calls them gay... and they throw around the word "fag" all the time. I think real, strong men aren't afraid to put on a pair of skin tight pants, colorful clothing, makeup, have long hair, etc. Because I have a lot of glam guy friends and when people call them gay, they're just like "Haha yeah ok... whatever... fuck off." They're not like "NO I'M NOT GAY OMG I HATE FAGS I AM NOT GAY I AM NOT GAY!" </p> <p>Who even knows if glam has anything to do with sexual identity? You should just dress and look how you want to without the fear of being rejected by others. The glam style is a way of being from everyone else, and being less mainstream. The only reason glam people get so much shit for looking that way is because of these strict gender roles in our society. I mean, I'm a girl, and I think I possess some male traits. I have been told my personality is more masculine... my appearance is definitely not masculine, but some say my personality is when it comes to dating and such. I also like beer, cars, graphic design... I like to play football, and I like to play guitar. However, I also enjoy spending hours with my makeup, going shopping, and saving 800 pictures of Axl Rose to my photobucket. It's just so stupid... all these gender roles... people should be whoever they want to be. As long as you know your sexual orientation... who really gives a fuck! </p> <p>I also hate how glam people seem to get bashed even MORE than "emo / scene " people. The same could be easily said for them... it's just ridiculous, people just don't understand glam if they are not part of the scene. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-15145 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:41:45 +0000 Dave 15145@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Yeah, there's an occasional douche bag here and there, but they usually are trying to compensate for something. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-15140 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:30:36 +0000 Broncotwerp 15140@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Sort of the same here in Oklahoma. We sort of listen to everything, and don't really give anyone crap about what they fucking listen to. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-15116 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:43:29 +0000 Dave 15116@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>In my area everyone is cool with me. I wear skinny jeans, tease my hair, skateboard, listen to 80's metal, and I party with the football and soccer players. They even want me to play some 80's songs on my guitar at parties. </p> <p>Maybe Texas is different from where y'all are </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-15106 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:44:14 +0000 dodge 15106@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>rock is here to stay they can take all the rap and new age crap and shove it up there a///////// </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-15038 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:52:26 +0000 Broncotwerp 15038@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <blockquote><p>"trust me i know how it feels to have the glam era trashed. i was looking at the nikki sixx website and this dude whos a year younger than me said "whos that emo ". later i was on this razzle tribute site and the same person asked me what i was on and i said razzle site and after a few minuites of me explaining what happened to him this is what he said<br /> "razzle deserved to die "<br /> some one tell me what he did to deserve to die ? <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' /> "<br /><strong>- glamno1</strong></p></blockquote> <p>Razzle didn't do anything to deserve death. It was just a freak accidnet caused by Vince Neal dribing drunk. I can't think of anyone in the music industry who "deserves" to die. It is always a great loss when we lose someone. Tell your friend to go Fuck Off! Then ask him if he would still feel the same way if it had been someone he was close to. -- Mama Bear </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-15030 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:39:48 +0000 glamno1 15030@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>trust me i know how it feels to have the glam era trashed. i was looking at the nikki sixx website and this dude whos a year younger than me said "whos that emo ". later i was on this razzle tribute site and the same person asked me what i was on and i said razzle site and after a few minuites of me explaining what happened to him this is what he said<br /> "razzle deserved to die "<br /> some one tell me what he did to deserve to die ? <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-12146 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:28:06 +0000 Broncotwerp 12146@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <blockquote><p>"True, keep in mind hair bands may look cheap! But are high maintenance.<br /> T-shirt bands shit on that! Wife issues I guess?"<br /><strong>- vegaschaos</strong></p></blockquote> <p>That's my opinion of the wanna be glamsters I met Thursday night. Loved the hair, but baggy butt jeans? I can't think of any respectable glam musician who would do that to the women out there. <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-12135 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:08:00 +0000 KaylaRules 12135@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>haha... your funny </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-12123 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:59:18 +0000 vegaschaos 12123@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>True, keep in mind hair bands may look cheap! But are high maintenance.<br /> T-shirt bands shit on that! Wife issues I guess? </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-12002 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:53:54 +0000 KaylaRules 12002@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Everybody has their own taste, even if it totally blows, but they do. It's the going aroud, talking shit about it that pisses me off!! Therefore, I don't talk shit about other peoples music unless they ask my opinion, or start talking shit about my beloved glam!! </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11979 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:58:25 +0000 Broncotwerp 11979@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Well, I went and did some research. I hate it when I have to fess up. . . . I liked Nirvana BIT Day. But, just because I liked some of their stuff, I didn't abandon my glam! Then again, I guess I can enjoy just about any music. Anyway, every genre of music gets their share of crap. . . . </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11856 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:10:25 +0000 princessmagical 11856@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Glam Rock is TRUE rock!!! Not that Nirvana crap that killed it. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11642 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:20:40 +0000 Broncotwerp 11642@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Okay, as a classical musician, a music major in college, a dj in the 80's, and a metal head for years, I guess that my comment would have to be this: Rap was invented long before metal was. In the US, it was called square dancing. That "rap" just didn't trash everything. My grandmother raised me. Listened to old country music. The first time she got in the car and I had "glam" playing she rocked out with it and turned up the volume. I was raised to give anything a chance, you never know you might like it. My 5 year old runs around the house randomly singing old Warrant tunes, because that is who I listen to the most. (They covered an entire wall of my dorm room in college.) And, yes, we do deserve some of the crap we get. Every generation/genre does. I like going to drag shows and sew for several female illusionists. They ask me one day why I got into it. I told them that in my teen years all I did was listen to music made by guys who wore more makeup than most of the drag queens I know. Hell, Brett Michaels still does! There is nothing wrong with it. I still remember my first pair of ragged out jeans, how pissed my grandma got when I would tease my bangs up almost 6 inches high, and every detail of the first concert I went to. But, if I hadn't grown up enjoying the rebellion (and that is part of what it was) it might freak me out just a bit. My best friend and her husband dress goth, but they both appreciate the same music I do. They just grew up 10 years later and for them, glam was something they experienced before they hit double digits. There is a lot of "music" that I don't care for, but I don't have any right to trash it or criticize it or try to prevent people from listening to it than Tipper Gore had with the PMRC back in the day. There is nothing wrong with being different or your own person. Live and let live. If the others can't handle it then "Live and Let Die"! </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11621 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:16:11 +0000 Bleorg 11621@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>not to change the subject...but to get back to the subject.....cmon i love glam as much as anyone of you guys but really it kinda does deserve the rep its gotten....try to look back at it as if you werent ever there...it does seem kind of silly eh? dont get me wrong i still have long hair n dress in band shirts n tight jeans..i guess im still a victim but i gotta say it does deserve the rep....but im PROUD to be part of the (i hate to use the word again) rep </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11480 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:33:36 +0000 Panurge 11480@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Well, Frank Zappa made plenty of great music in the '80s by typing into a Synclavier, so you don't have to play "real instruments" and it is "actual music"--just actual music you don't like, just like your friends don't like <em>your</em> "actual music". Some 80-year-old devotee of, say, George Gershwin would probably trash all of us, emo, glam, and rap alike, as being "not real music"--and I know why he'd do it, too. And he wouldn't necessarily be wrong. So much of it is just a matter of personal taste. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11442 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:27:33 +0000 xjessiejoex 11442@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>I agree i am in highschool and i wear motley crue, ratt , poison,etc. t shirts and you would not belive all the crap i get for wearing that<br /> those dumb asses need to shut the hell up<br /> 1.because they actually write their own songs and melodies unlike jz and snoopy dogg or whatever the hell there names are!<br /> 2.THEY ACTUALLY play instruments and dont make weird and annoying sounds like*chica chica bom bam*<br /> WHAT REALLY BLOWS MY MIND IS THEY THINK IT IS ACTUAL MUSIC<br /> <strong>I listen to music that makes me want to have nothin but a damn good time</strong><br /> not emo depresed shit or i just fucked my gurl in da club </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11441 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:48:17 +0000 Panurge 11441@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Oh, BTW, the word I was looking for in my first sentence was "flamboyant". How could a word like that escape me? </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11323 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:12:03 +0000 Panurge 11323@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>It's always easy to bash really "colorful" things; it's fairly easy to make mistakes doing glam, and as such it's easy to ridicule, especially when the look is so over-the-top and the music is usually so straightforward, even simplistic, and not very original either. When that happens, it seems to many people as if the band's more interested in looking cool than in the actual music. So bashing glam quickly became a way of announcing a "proper" sense of priorities. Listener X bashes <em>spandex posers who don't care about music</em>, Listener X dresses down a lot more, therefore Listener X knows What's Really Important. It's the same reason people dress down these days at the gym; do a Google search for "thong leotards" and you'll mostly get magazine articles throwing in disparaging references as a way of establishing that Things Aren't Really Like That Anymore, in the same way that I've been reading articles on Rush for about half of my life that talk about how Geddy Lee has Toned Down His Banshee Wail or something, as if it had only recently happened. But deep down, I think lots of people have at least some respect for glam-rockers simply for doing something so socially risky. </p> <p>True, most punks hate Nazis. (OTOH, most of them hate hippies, too, for much the same reasons Nazis hate them.) I guess it depends on what kind of punks you're talking about.) But <em>when</em> Nazis wanna rock, they play punk. (Or else they play Nordic black metal. OTOH, I think that probably died down a bit when all the black-metal-heads realized the REAL Nazis would've made 'em get a haircut...)<br /> <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p> <p>Glam doodz can have more girls than everyone else and still be gay, y'know. <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> (DISCLAIMER: I'm bi, and it would please me no end to know that there were some actual GLB glammers out there--or else I'd be more disappointed than ever thinking I could've had it back in the day and I missed it...) <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> (There do seem to be some <em>"transgendered"</em> glamsters out there, but not that many.)</p> <p>I agree it's really mostly metal purists bashing glam (What hath Metallica wrought?), or at least it was when there were still enough glammers for people to notice them. Someone once told me that metal purists probably would've respected glam more if they'd stuck to their guns when thrash came along instead of toning it down (again, solving the wrong problem).</p> <p>"We needed to do something about it" around <em>1984</em>; this genre's been "ended" for about 15 years now--that's long enough for a grade-school kid to graduate from college and be all set up as an adult. It's only the postmodern condition that keeps us from being totally yesterday's people. And what glam needed to do isn't what it did--and so we end up here. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11315 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:59:24 +0000 cruejunkie85 11315@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>yea dude...same exact feelings...like the grammy's??? bullshit....i swear the music scene today is horrible....but what really gets me is that emo shit...bunch a teary-eyed sick little bastards....people criticize it because they dont understand the type of music....(this is much brought on by the overabundance of homophobes in this country)....sickening really but i feel that we're better off than people like that anyway...lol </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11314 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:55:26 +0000 drummingdog13 11314@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>Yes I have the same feelings about this and BTW its not rap its crap. Guitar Hero and Rock Band are bringing back some of those songs (THANK GOD!!) like people are singing to poison, bon jovi, metallica, and guns n roses. GLAM ROCK FOREVER!!!! </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-11154 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:34:28 +0000 Chillout80s 11154@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <blockquote><p>"i get so sick douchebags bashing this genre. most of them are usually fans of rap and new age. it really pisses me off. people just don't understand the awesomeness of this genre.<br /> does anyone have the same feelings about this subject as me?"<br /><strong>- vulgardisplayofglam</strong></p></blockquote> <p>That about sums it up ...every once in a while I'll see somebody from high school and we'll chat about this and that; the subject of music always comes up and say with conviction that I still have my Ratt - out of the cellar, in my CD player, or I was just jamming to some Look what the cat dragged in, the other day. They will sometimes give me some strange looks and Im like what ?? We rocked to this stuff back in the day and it's just as good now as it was then! </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-10958 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:52:26 +0000 RcksAngl 10958@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <blockquote><p> But if anyone says glam's gay, my retort would prolly be something like: Fuck, they got more girls than you could ever dream of... or: Sixx'd kick <em>your</em> arse. I have absolutely no shame about defending my heroes!"<br /><strong>- Tara</strong></blockquote> Well said Tara,I like alot of different music too,even some Rap!!But if people mess with me and my glam bands I will defend them!!I have fights with my boyfriend all the time <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> even though he likes some of the glam bands too!! </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-10955 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:02:46 +0000 Tara 10955@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>I personally don't give a fuck if people don't like the music I do. I guess it's lucky that most of my friends tastes seems to generally overlap over the area called Metal.</p> <p>And fuck me, I like some rap. And that shit that passes for "RnB' these days. My favourite song off the radio last year would probably be Umbrella! They call me the "Genre Spanner" <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> I love punk rock, and pop music and indie... My latest acquisition was a Bonzo Dog Band comp. I can't be doing with jazz, but I can see it's appeal back in the day. I don't mind the odd eemo tune, it's really just poppy indie punk fusion. Actually, I kinda feel sorry for the emo kids, I mean back in my days, the 90s, it was bad enough, now it's all that and cellphones. Thses kids have nothing to call their own, so they steal from all the genres. I find them cute as with their skinny jeans (we called them <em>'drainpipes'</em>, kids! <img src='http://glamrock.com/forum/bb-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and their floppy haircuts. Tch, kids these days...</p> <p>But if anyone says glam's gay, my retort would prolly be something like: Fuck, they got more girls than you could ever dream of... or: Sixx'd kick <em>your</em> arse. I have absolutely no shame about defending my heroes! </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-10929 Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:17:47 +0000 YouthGonWildChild 10929@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>I personally hate rap and people who think glam rock is just a bunch of gay guys with perms (its more than that) i think we gotta do somethin about it or this genre will probably end </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-2538 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:40:40 +0000 IWP 2538@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>It's mostly metal elitists that bash glam in order to appear as if they're so "tr00" and "kvlt". They think it's too "gay" to be considered metal. </p> http://glamrock.com/forum/glam-forum/hairglam-doesnt-deserve-the-crap-it-gets/page/2#post-2409 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:08:19 +0000 Stanley 2409@http://glamrock.com/forum/ <p>I love early Punk like the Pistols and the Ramones.</p> <p>As for the crap glam gets, I give back exactly whatI get and I am very blunt and outspoken when it comes to debating other styles such as other forms of rock and metal, Rap, Emo etc...bring it on, I say! </p>